18 episodes

DanceOutsideDance is a podcast of interdisciplinary conversations. We consider it an open research forum; a bridging space where we embrace the unresolved. Our investigations engage with diverse modalities and approaches to collaboration, technology and digital media, performance making, relational practice, neuroscience, anthropology and somatics.

We try to listen to what arises in the episodes to cultivate critical thinking and open dialogue.

DanceOutsideDance is artist-led and self-funded and was initiated by Laura Colomban, Michaela Gerussi and Julia Pond. To support the podcast, subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/danceoutsidedance.

Intro Soundtrack created by Tom Reeves.

Collaborators
Laura Colomban is developing a bespoke cyclical creative process through performance-making which integrates circular methodologies through expanded choreography and auditory investigation, specifically creating sites within sites through voice, movement, and sound groundwork. inhabitingthebody.org/lauracolomban

Julia Pond is investigating embodied practices and modes of being-in-time as pathways to undermining and usurping capitalist structures. Her work also concerns eco-somatics, informed by experience as a direct lineage Duncan practitioner. juliapond.com

Michaela Gerussi is a dance artist researching the complexities of how we sense ourselves. Informed by her studies in Craniosacral Biodynamics, her practice is concerned with the intersection of the nervous system, self-regulation, affect and dance-making. michaelagerussi.com

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DanceOutsideDance is a podcast of interdisciplinary conversations. We consider it an open research forum; a bridging space where we embrace the unresolved. Our investigations engage with diverse modalities and approaches to collaboration, technology and digital media, performance making, relational practice, neuroscience, anthropology and somatics.

We try to listen to what arises in the episodes to cultivate critical thinking and open dialogue.

DanceOutsideDance is artist-led and self-funded and was initiated by Laura Colomban, Michaela Gerussi and Julia Pond. To support the podcast, subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/danceoutsidedance.

Intro Soundtrack created by Tom Reeves.

Collaborators
Laura Colomban is developing a bespoke cyclical creative process through performance-making which integrates circular methodologies through expanded choreography and auditory investigation, specifically creating sites within sites through voice, movement, and sound groundwork. inhabitingthebody.org/lauracolomban

Julia Pond is investigating embodied practices and modes of being-in-time as pathways to undermining and usurping capitalist structures. Her work also concerns eco-somatics, informed by experience as a direct lineage Duncan practitioner. juliapond.com

Michaela Gerussi is a dance artist researching the complexities of how we sense ourselves. Informed by her studies in Craniosacral Biodynamics, her practice is concerned with the intersection of the nervous system, self-regulation, affect and dance-making. michaelagerussi.com

    Igor x Moreno in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Julia Pond

    Igor x Moreno in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Julia Pond

    Part of the special curated series enDurANCE, curated and guest hosted by Daniela Perazzo, and supported by the Ivor Guest Research Grant and the Race and Gender Matters Research Group at Kingston University, we discuss notions of endurance, perseverance, repetition and what they really require in art and life. Discussing their new work KARRASEKARE (the Sardinian word for Carnival) the conversation probes ideas of what collectivity can offer to duration and asks how cultural traditions can speak to our contemporary world and art.

    Keywords:
    Endurance, contemporary dance, dance research, perseverance, tradition, carnival

    As of publication in September 2023, Igor x Moreno are preparing for new tour dates in 2023/24 across the UK and Europe. All information can be found here:
    http://igorandmoreno.com/calendar/

    Igor x Moreno is the name under which the works created by choreographers Igor Urzelai and Moreno Solinas – in collaboration with an extended group of artists – are presented. Igor x Moreno’s works stem from a fascination for people and what makes us such special animals. They use choreography and mostly non-verbal languages to create experiences which can surprise, energise and unsettle. Their works – highly constructed whilst deeply concerned with liveness – visit and escape different genres and styles.Igor x Moreno’s creative processes favour questions over answers, action over narration, communication over expression, alterity over diversity, patience over productivity. They don’t see entertainment as their duty, but as a useful communication tool. They work with rigour and playfulness. They value pointlessness. The team – based across Europe – gathers in Sardinia and London, from where Igor x Moreno’s works have toured extensively in Europe and also in North and South America, Africa and Asia. Awards and recognitions include the Rudolf Laban Award and National Dance Awards and Total Theatre Awards nominations; their works have been selected for Aerowaves (2011, 2013 and 2015), NID Platform, British Council Showcase and British Dance Edition. Moreno Solinas and Igor Urzelai are affiliate artists of The Place (London), co-directors of Sardinian production company S’ALA (www.s-ala.com) and members of the Cultural Advisory Board of British Council Italy.

    Daniela Perazzo is a dance and performance scholar with a specialist interest in the intersections of the aesthetic and the political in interdisciplinary movement practices and experimental dramaturgical processes. She is a Senior Lecturer in Dance and Postgraduate Research Coordinator for the Department of Performing Arts and the School of Arts. She received a PhD in Dance Studies from the University of Surrey, funded by a university scholarship (2004-2007). Her first monograph, Jonathan Burrows: Towards a Minor Dance, was published by Palgrave Macmillan in 2019 in the "New World Choreographies" series. Other recent publications include articles in Dance Research Journal, Performance Philosophy, Performance Research, Choreographic Practices and Contemporary Theatre Review.

    • 41 min
    Lenio Kaklea in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Michaela Gerussi

    Lenio Kaklea in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Michaela Gerussi

    Introduced by Michaela Gerussi, this episode follows a conversation between Daniela Perazzo and invited guest Lenio Kaklea. It is one episode in a three-part series, enDurANCE, co-curated with Daniela. The series has been produced with the support of an Ivor Guest Research Grant awarded by the Society of Dance Research and the Race/Gender Matter research group of Kingston School of Art.

    works by Lenio discussed in the conversation:

    Practical encyclopedia - http://www.abd-contents.com/choreography/encyclopedie_pratique.php
    detours - http://www.abd-contents.com/choreography/detours.php
    balade - http://www.abd-contents.com/choreography/ballad.php
    Αγρίμι (Fauve) - http://www.abd-contents.com/choreography/fauve.php

    Αγρίμι (Fauve) will be presented in London at Serpentine in early winter 2024


    Lenio mentions a quote on 'the institution' from American artist Andrea Fraser


    Bios:

    Lenio Kaklea is a dancer, choreographer, director and writer who was born in Athens and is based in Paris. She studied at the national conservatory of contemporary dance in Athens where she trained in classical ballet and American modern techniques. In 2005 she was awared a scholarship and moved to France. Lenio's artistic practice uses a wide range of media including choreography, text and video, and is influenced by feminisim and post-colonial critique. In her work she explores the production of subjectivity through the organized transmission of movements and reveals the intimite spaces in which we construct our identity. In 2009 Lenio founded abd with Lou Forster. The company develops choreographic and curatorial projects that explore the intersections of dance, research and critical theory.

    Daniela Perazzo is a dance and performance scholar with a specialist interest in the intersections of the aesthetic and the political in interdisciplinary movement practices and experimental dramaturgical processes. She joined Kingston University London in 2014, having previously taught at the University of Surrey. She is a Senior Lecturer in Dance and Postgraduate Research Coordinator for the Department of Performing Arts and the School of Arts. Her first monograph, Jonathan Burrows: Towards a Minor Dance, was published by Palgrave Macmillan in 2019.

    • 53 min
    Anne Bourne in conversation with Laura Colomban

    Anne Bourne in conversation with Laura Colomban

    Anne Bourne

    With experience in international intermedia performance and recording, composer/artist Anne Bourne (based in Tkaronto) creates emergent streams of cello, piano and field recordings. Anne facilitates environmental listening through the text scores and listening practice of Pauline Oliveros and walking. A Chalmers Fellow, Anne explores equanimity, microtonal sound, listening and the wave patterns of water.
    I met Anne during the workshop Creative Composition at Banff Centre for Arts and Creativity in Canada, and had the opportunity of collaborating with her at the Venice Biennale for the sound installation Cassini’s Dream created by the artist China Blue. What stroked me from the moment I start to be with Anne in the same room, creating (and also not, just chatting and giggling) is her presence and presence to the sound, the one already present and the one created, as she composes the aliveness of the present moment, with the environment and I have been a witness of how this fine attunement changes not just the whole quality of the room, but also the listener.

    ‘What is heard is changed by listening and changes the listener..’
    Pauline Oliveros

    credits for audio
    elements of Nearshore: a one hour sound installation under the Gardiner Expressway
    composer: anne bourne

    Some of the topics we have covered
    Pauline Olivieros / Deep Listening
    Climate: Sea level rise
    Wave patterns, shorelines, singing practices
    Chant traditions: Sardinia, throat singing and harmonic chants in France
    Listening walks
    Ocean Space, TB21 Academy
    Climate refugees, frontline issues
    Listening according to perspectives
    Territorial Agency and ocean literacy through Ocean Space

    References we have talked about:

    Hildegard Westerkamp
    https://hildegardwesterkamp.ca/

    Tb21Academy
    
https://www.ocean-space.org/about/tba21-academy



    China Blue
    http://chinablueart.com/

    Cassini’s Dream:
    https://vimeo.com/349192449?login=true

    Karen Power
    
https://karenpower.ie/listening-antartica.html

    Library of Water
    
https://www.west.is/en/service/library-of-water

    Astrida Neimanis
    Bodies of Water: Posthuman Feminist Phenomenology

    Quantum Listening
    Pauline Oliveros, Ione, Laurie Anderson, Aura Satz

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Alessandro Sciarroni in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Laura Colomban

    Alessandro Sciarroni in conversation with Daniela Perazzo (guest curator) and Laura Colomban

    Today, Laura Colomban from the DanceOutsideDance team has the pleasure to introduce Daniela Perazzo, Senior Lecturer in Dance at Kingston University, who will lead the conversation with Alessandro Sciarroni. This episode is part of a three-part series, enDurANCE, co-curated with Daniela, kindly supported by an Ivor Guest Research Grant awarded by the Society of Dance Research and also by the Race/Gender Matter research group of Kingston School of Art.

    Alessandro Sciarroni is an Italian dance and performance artist whose work goes beyond traditional definitions of genre. His creations are presented in the context of contemporary dance and theatre festivals, museums and art galleries, as well as in unconventional spaces. They are created through the involvement of collaborators from a range of disciplines. Among his numerous awards, in 2019 Sciarroni was awarded the Venice Biennale Golden Lion for his dance career. Through the repetition of practice to the limit of the performers’ physical endurance, his works aim to expose the obsessions, fears and fragility of the act of performance. His pieces have been presented all over Europe, North and South America, the Middle East and Asia.

    Some of the topics we have covered
    Endurance
    Repetition
    Time
    Audience expectations
    Audience participation
    Lost dances
    Polka chinata

    Italy
    Permission
    Contemporary performance art
    Fom theatre to dance
    Performative space
    Circulartime

    References we have talked about:

    Save the last dance for me
    https://www.alessandrosciarroni.it/work/save-the-last-dance-for-me/?lang=en

    Dream
    https://www.alessandrosciarroni.it/work/dream/?lang=en

    Folk-s will you still love me tomorrow?
    https://www.alessandrosciarroni.it/work/folk-s/?lang=en

    Chroma_don't be frightened of turning the page
    https://www.alessandrosciarroni.it/work/chroma/?lang=en

    Bio guest curator:

    Daniela Perazzo is a dance and performance scholar with a specialist interest in the intersections of the aesthetic and the political in interdisciplinary movement practices and experimental dramaturgical processes. She joined Kingston University London in 2014, having previously taught at the University of Surrey. She is a Senior Lecturer in Dance and Postgraduate Research Coordinator for the Department of Performing Arts and the School of Arts. Her first monograph, Jonathan Burrows: Towards a Minor Dance, was published by Palgrave Macmillan in 2019.

    • 56 min
    J Neve Harrington in conversation with Michaela Gerussi and Daniela Perazzo (guest curator)

    J Neve Harrington in conversation with Michaela Gerussi and Daniela Perazzo (guest curator)

    This is the second episode in a two episode mini-series on the theme of Re-enchanting British dance, guest-curated by Daniela Perazzo and supported by Kingston University. These two episodes are three-way conversations between an invited artist, a member of the podcast team, and Daniela Perazzo.

    This joint conversation between Michaela Gerussi, Daniela Perazzo and invited guest J Neve (Neve) Harrington takes Neve's recent project Satelliser (and accompanying digital publication satellising) as a starting point to discuss her work through a range of topics, concerns and approaches.

    Below is a short text on Satelliser to help situate the listener:
    “Satelliser: a dance for the gallery is a durational performance work for an intergenerational group of women. These dancers subtly alter their spatial configurations in response to the visitors’ movements, playing with the relationship between performance, visitor, and space...
    Accompanying the live work is a digital publication and podcast satellising.com. which holds together contexts around Satelliser: a dance for the gallery.”
    (https://jnharrington.com/satelliser-a-dance-for-the-gallery)

    Some of the topics that come up throughout the conversation include:
    containers
    labour
    parts
    transparency
    dance training
    unison
    difference
    relationships
    revealing difference
    visibility, the primacy of vision
    partial narratives/perspectives/multiple subjectivities
    playfulness
    materiality
    the nervous system
    touch

    References:
    Some of Neve's earlier projects which are mentioned in this episode include Screensaver Series (https://jnharrington.com/screensaver-series) and The Human Clock (https://jnharrington.com/the-human-clock-)

    Neve mentions a previous episode of Dance Outside Dance with artist Florence Peake. That episode cane be found here: https://www.spreaker.com/user/danceoutsidedance/florence-peak-mixdown

    Michaela quotes from a text on satellising.com which references Ann Cvetkovich. That text is Satelliser as Crafting by Else Tunemyr
    https://www.satellising.com/satellising-publication/satelliser-as-crafting

    Michaela reads a quote on craft by anthropologist Stephanie Bunn from her text The importance of Materials

    Bios:

    Michaela Gerussi is a Canadian dance artist based in London, UK. Michaela’s dance practice is nourished by her inquiry into the nervous system, interoception and attunement, in relation to her studies in Biodynamic Craniosacral therapy. Her choreographic work considers shifting relationships between people, places and materials, layering subtle perceptual detail with a functional, dynamic approach to movement.

    J Neve Harrington (London, UK) is an artist whose work includes writing, dance & choreography, drawing, video, installation, costume and space design. She works mainly in gallery and non-stage spaces where her work prioritises explorations around access, play, agency, confrontation by times/scales beyond the human, neuroqueer experiences of information processing and attention.

    Daniela Perazzo is a dance and performance scholar with a specialist interest in the intersections of the aesthetic and the political in interdisciplinary movement practices and experimental dramaturgical processes. She joined Kingston University London in 2014, having previously taught at the University of Surrey. She is a Senior Lecturer in Dance and Postgraduate Research Coordinator for the Department of Performing Arts and the School of Arts. Her first monograph, Jonathan Burrows: Towards a Minor Dance, was published by Palgrave Macmillan in 2019.

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Charlotte Spencer in conversation with Julia Pond and Daniela Perazzo (guest curator)

    Charlotte Spencer in conversation with Julia Pond and Daniela Perazzo (guest curator)

    The three-way conversation begins with introductions from guest curator Daniela Perazzo, then delves into the notion of intimacy and touch in life and in performance, discussing Charlotte’s new work Written in the Body, and moving into how practices of wellness and support can exist within artistic work. Finally, we discuss the role of language in Charlotte’s work.

    This is the first episode in a two part mini-series on the theme of 'Re-enchanting British dance,' guest-curated by Daniela Perazzo and supported by Kingston University. Both episodes are three-way conversations between an invited artist, a member of the podcast team, and Daniela Perazzo.

    Bios:
    Charlotte Spencer is a choreographer, teacher, curator, mentor and performer. She initiates all projects for Charlotte Spencer Projects, often working across art forms and in outdoor environmental contexts. Charlotte was recipient of a Bonnie Bird Choreographic Development Award in 2020. She has received commissions from The Place, Wellcome Collection, Greenwich Dance, Trinity Laban, Salisbury International Art Festival, South East Dance, Jerwood Galleries, Turner Contemporary, Siobhan Davies Dance and Brighton & Hove Libraries. Charlotte was a Sadler’s Wells Summer University Artist 2015-18 led by Jonathan Burrows and Eva Martinez, and Artist Activator at Greenwich Dance 2014-17. She has worked closely with Siobhan Davies Dance since 2010 on a variety of projects, notably leading Next Choreography 2014-16 - their choreography programme for Young People. Charlotte was a priority artist for Dance Dialogues 2 2012-14 and Tour d’Europe des Choreographes 2010/2011. Charlotte graduated from London Contemporary Dance School in 2003 with a 1st Class BA (Hons). She is also in the midst of building a house in Brighton and hanging out with her young child.

    Petra Söör (collaborator, Written in the Body) is a dancer, maker and facilitator, working in a range of contexts including with Fevered Sleep, Charlotte Spencer Projects, Simone Kenyon, Robert Clark, Robin Dingemans, Carrie Cracknell and the National Theatre. Alongside solo work her own practice often proposes collaborative processes within a diversity of environments, projects include Sleeping a Walking Mountain and Undanced Dances, currently evolving interests in person-centred approaches to movement, tactile pedagogy and different modalities of touch to support health and wellbeing.

    Louise Tanoto (collaborator, Written in the Body) is a dance-artist based between Belgium and the UK. She trained at Laban and was a member of Transitions 2007. Louise is currently touring with Oona Doherty and Daniel Linehan as well as Charlotte Spencer Projects. Her performance credits within the UK include; Gecko, J Neve Harrington, Requardt & Rosenberg, Tilted Productions, Lost Dog, Damien Jalet and Hussein Chalayan. In Europe she has performed for Kabinet K, Eszter Salamon, Thierry de Mey, Ugo Dehaes, T.R.A.S.H (Netherlands) and was a member of Fabulous Beast. Louise is also a mother.

    Julia Pond is a choreographer, researcher and teacher. An expert in Isadora Duncan technique and repertory, her contemporary research interests and performance are at the intersection of dance and politics. Her fictional company and performance project, BRED, explores notions of value and productivity. Julia is also a TECHNE-funded PhD student at Kingston University, for her project exploring re-articulations of 'value' towards sustainability through dance and movement knowledges.

    Daniela Perazzo is a dance and performance scholar with a specialist interest in the intersections of the aesthetic and the political in interdisciplinary movement practices and experimental dramaturgical processes. She joined Kingston University London in 2014, having previously taught at the University of Surrey. She is a Senior Lecturer in Dance and Postgraduate Research Coordinator for the Department of...

    • 1 hr 8 min

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