8th Layer Insights Perry Carpenter | N2K Networks

In this episode Perry Carpenter sits down with Rachel Tobac to debrief after her recent KB4-CON session, "How I'd Hack You Live" where she... well... hacked Perry live. Perry and Rachel explore how age-old deception techniques are being revamped for the digital age. The discussion spans the future of social engineering, the increasing role of AI in security, and a few other fun bits.

Guest:
Rachel Tobac (LinkedIn) (Twitter / X) (Website)
Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):


KB4-CON 2024 Main Stage Sessions (Registration required)


Deepfake scammer walks off with $25 million in first-of-its-kind AI heist, Ars Technica


The Social Engineer's Playbook: A Practical Guide to Pretexting, by Jeremiah Talamantes


The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security, by Kevin Mitnick

YouTube video: 60 minutes Here’s how I used AI to clone a 60 Minutes correspondent’s voice to trick a colleague


YouTube video: It Was Easy to Hack a Billionaire


YouTube video: Inside the Mind of an Ethical Hacker


Perry's Books (Amazon Associate Links)


Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter


The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer

Production Credits:
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.
Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
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On this episode Perry sits down with Dr. Matthew Canham to explore ways in which AI can be weaponized against us, and how age old social engineering tactics can be used to trick large language models.

Guest:
Dr. Matthew Canham (LinkedIn) (Website)
Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):

Cognitive Security Institute YouTube Channel

Cognitive Security Institute website

YouTube video: BlackHat Presentation -- Me and My Evil Digital Twin: The Psychology of Human Exploitation by AI Assistants

YouTube video: NEW AI Jailbreak Method SHATTERS GPT4, Claude, Gemini, LLaMA


Not with a Bug, But with a Sticker: Attacks on Machine Learning Systems and What To Do About Them, by Ram Shankar Siva Kumar & Hyrum Anderson


Six Thinking Hats, the de Bono Group


Six Thinking Hats: Looking at Decision in Different Ways, MindTools


AI + Six Thinking Hats, LifeArchitect.ai

8Li Season 4, episode 10: Artificial Intelligence Insights & Oddities


Perry's Books (Amazon Associate Links)


Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter


The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer


Production Credits:
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.
Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
Want to get in touch with Perry? Here's how:

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Email: perry [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com

On this episode Perry sits down with Jeremy Treadwell, a people-first technologist and futurist, to get the lowdown on how a futurist approaches the world.

Guest:
Jeremy Treadwell (LinkedIn) (Twitter)

Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):

YouTube Video: What UX/UI Taught Me about Improving Security Awareness [SANS Security Awareness Summit 2022], Jeremy Treadwell

YouTube Video: Reimagine the Future of Data, Privacy + Security with Technologist Jeremy Treadwell


The Institute for the Future website


Four Questions to Turn Everyone in Your Company Into a Futurist, FastCompany article


How Does a Futurist See the Future, LinkedIn Article by Jacob Morgan


The Black Swan: Second Edition: The Impact of the Highly Improbable: With a new section: "On Robustness and Fragility", by Nassim Nicholas Taleb


The Gray Rhino: How to Recognize and Act on the Obvious Dangers We Ignore, by Michele Wucker


William Gibson’s Future Is Now, Pagan Kennedy, the New York Times

8Li Season 1, episode 8: The Risk Episode: Black Swans, Grey Rhinos, Angels & Demons


Perry's Books (Amazon Associate Links)


Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter


The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer


Production Credits:
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.
Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
Want to get in touch with Perry? Here's how:

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Email: perry [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com

Welcome to season 5 of 8th Layer Insights!
To celebrate Valentine's Day, Perry sits down with Emmy winning reporter Kerry Tomlinson to talk about the time she turned the tables on a romance scammer.

Guest:
Kerry Tomlinson (LinkedIn) (Website) (YouTube)

Books and References:

YouTube video: Inside a romance scam: how to make a catfisher sing


YouTube video: Scammers are stealing people's faces for live video calls


National Cybersecurity Alliance : Online Romance and Dating Scams


National Cybersecurity Alliance : Romance Scams Resource Kit


Federal Trade Commission: Romance scammers’ favorite lies exposed


Know Your Meme: On the Internet, Nobody Knows You're A Dog


‘NOBODY KNOWS YOU’RE A DOG’: As iconic Internet cartoon turns 20, creator Peter Steiner knows the joke rings as relevant as ever

Wikipedia: On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog



Perry's Books (Amazon Associate Links)


Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter


The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer


Production Credits:
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.
Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
Want to get in touch with Perry? Here's how:

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Email: perry [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com

On this episode, Perry celebrates the one year birthday of ChatGPT by taking a look at AI from technological, philosophical, and folkloric perspectives. We see how AI was formed based on human words and works, and how it can now shape the future of human legend and belief.
Guests:



Brandon Karpf, Vice President at N2K Networks (LinkedIn) (Website)



Dr. Lynne S. McNeill, Associate Professor at Utah State University (LinkedIn) (Twitter)



Dr. John Laudun, Professor at University of Louisiana at Lafayette (LinkedIn) (Twitter) (Website)



Lev Gorelov, Research Director at Handshake Consulting (LinkedIn) (Twitter) (Website)



Resources






Interview with the AI, part one, by the Brandon Karpf / the CyberWire






'Hard Fork': An Interview With Sam Altman, by The New York Times






The Exciting, Perilous Journey Toward AGI, Ilya Sutskever TED Talk






Ilya: the AI scientist shaping the world, by The Guardian






Meet Loab, the AI Art Woman Haunting the Internet: Is she a demon? A Cryptid? Or nothing at all..., the Guardian






In 2016, Microsoft’s Racist Chatbot Revealed the Dangers of Online Conversation The bot learned language from people on Twitter—but it also learned values, IEEE Spectrum



Perry's Digital Folklore episode about AI






Handshake's Generative AI Masterclass on Maven




Perry's Books (Amazon Associate links)






Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter






The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer




Be sure to check out Perry's other show, Digital Folklore. It's all about the oddities and importance of online culture. Head over to the show's website (https://digitalfolklore.fm/) to see our custom artwork, subscribe to the newsletter, shop for merch, support the show on Patreon, and more. Want to check out what others are saying? Here's some recent press about the show: https://digitalfolklore.fm/in-the-news.
Production Credits:
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, Storyblocks, & EpidemicSound.
8Li cover art by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
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Email: perry [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com

Let's face it. Most of us have a love/hate relationship with technology and technological advances. We dream about the new thing... but when it arrives, we are usually a little disappointed. Many of us also lament the constant erosion of privacy, the changes in social norms, and more. And, little-by-little, we allow those aspects of new technology to make us numb. We accept the cognitive dissonance of not totally being happy with the trade-offs; yet we still make the trade.
In this episode, we explore a few of the positives and some of the unintended consequences associated with recent technological advancements. We'll hear from Dr. Lydia, Kostopoulos, Dr. Charles Chaffin, Andra Zaharia, and Aaron Barr.
Guests:

Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos (LinkedIn) (Website)

Dr. Charles Chaffin (LinkedIn) (Website)

Andra Zaharia (LinkedIn) (Website)

Aaron Barr (LinkedIn) (Website)

Books and Resources:

IEEE Article: Decoupling Human Characteristics from Algorithmic Capabilities by Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos


Numb: How the Information Age Dulls Our Senses and How We Can Get them Back by Dr. Charles Chaffin (Amazon Associate Links)


The Numb Podcast by Dr. Charles Chaffin


The Cyber Empathy Podcast by Andra Zaharia

Reminder: Your 'smart AI' often involves a low-paid contractor surveilling you

How creepy is your smart speaker?

Newton's Laws of Motion

Unintended Consequences

Elon Musk's warning regarding AI


Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter (Amazon Associate Link)


Everything is Alive podcast by PRX and Radiotopia


Production Credits:
Additional voice talent provided by Kristina Leigh.
Additional research by Nyla Gennaoui.
Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.
Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.
8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/
Want to get in touch with Perry? Here's how:

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Email: hello [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com