14 episodes

Building Belonging embraces authentic conversations about DEIB solutions by amplifying the most marginalized voices in the legal industry and exploring spaces others dare not. Join us at the Office for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging, at the New York City Bar Association in Building Belonging in the legal industry and beyond.

Building Belonging The Office for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging of the New York City Bar Association

    • Society & Culture

Building Belonging embraces authentic conversations about DEIB solutions by amplifying the most marginalized voices in the legal industry and exploring spaces others dare not. Join us at the Office for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging, at the New York City Bar Association in Building Belonging in the legal industry and beyond.

    ABLE to Make Change at Any Age

    ABLE to Make Change at Any Age

    Today it’s time for a dose of inspiration because we’re talking to a group of young activists who have joined the fight for racial justice and equity. The ABLE initiative was started by a group of high school students. It uses art merchandise to donate to five organizations aiding the Black Lives Matter movement, encouraging youth volunteers to become active changemakers in their communities. ODEIB talked to ABLE leaders about how they launched ABLE and overcame pushback even from within their own families. It was an object lesson in making the kind of change you want to see in the world. We are so proud of these DEIB leaders and they gave us a touch of much-needed faith in the power of community, truth-telling and empathy in change work. We all have a thing or two to learn or re-learn from the young leaders of ABLE.

    Learn more about ABLE and support their work: https://www.ableart.studio/about

    Join ODEIB’s 21 Day Antiracism Challenge https://form.typeform.com/to/F8vDU0EP

    Access a transcript of this episode here: https://bit.ly/3UzkRgE

    • 40 min
    Alternative Paths to Belonging

    Alternative Paths to Belonging

    In this episode of Building Belonging we talk to a few folks who have found their belonging by exploring alternative career paths outside the law. Margaret Segreti and Sam Choi join us from Bloomberg to discuss their personal journey from being practicing lawyers to discovering unanticipated roles in data analysis. Margaret and Sam emphasize the importance of being open to taking systematic, informed risks and embracing non-traditional roles when marketing yourself. They also share their expertise on developing artificial intelligence tools in a way that mitigates bias and incorporates DEI principles from step one.

    Tune in to learn more about:

    • The challenges and rewards of shifting gears mid-career

    • How to approach marketing yourself when you are looking to make a change

    • Navigating bias in the design and build of artificial intelligence tools

    • The day-to-day work life of a JD that is not practicing law

    Access a transcript of this episode here: https://bit.ly/3tO7qhS



    DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

    Mary Ellen – Little Justice Leaders https://bit.ly/48u1qdf

    Angie – One Night in Miami https://amzn.to/41R566p

    Tanya – Black Girls Play: The Story of Handgames https://bit.ly/47yYGKn

    • 53 min
    Is the Legal Profession Making Good on Its Mental Health Promises?

    Is the Legal Profession Making Good on Its Mental Health Promises?

    Building Belonging is joined by Eileen Travis, Executive Director of the City Bar Lawyer Assistance Program. Eileen has forty years’ experience in mental-health services and has been part of the spearhead of the legal profession’s growing awareness of and respect for mental health and well-being. Eileen has great insight to share about the history of how the legal profession has dealt with mental health and well-being issues. She explained how shifting attitudes haven’t always led to substantial shifts in a culture that drives lawyers to burnout. But Eileen also shared her experience of progress being made by a new Gen Z workforce that is driving some of the well-being culture changes that the profession needs.

    Tune in to hear more about:

    • How the landscape of mental health in the legal profession was dramatically changed by a groundbreaking ABA report (linked below)

    • How the legal profession has succeeded in producing more mental-health resources without always giving lawyers meaningful opportunities to utilize those resources

    • How LAP has worked to change the character and fitness process to be less stigmatizing and more compassionate

    • The history of Lawyers Assistance Programs in New York and around the world, and how they built a foundation for wellness programs in the legal profession today

    The Path to Lawyer Well-Being: Practical Recommendations for Positive Change (aka the Krill Report): https://bityl.co/MRc6


    DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

    Mary Ellen – Tips for Consuming Social Media with Intention

    Tanya – “The Egg,” (https://ytube.io/3mxh) “Dissatisfaction” (https://ytube.io/3mxg) and “Loneliness” (https://ytube.io/3mxi) by Kurz gesagt

    Angie – When They See Us (https://bityl.co/MRJq)


    Access a transcript of this episode here: https://bityl.co/MRe2

    • 53 min
    The Next Generation of DEIB

    The Next Generation of DEIB

    The ODEIB crew debriefs their 2023 summer interns: Eliana Cortez, Deynna Rey Tovar, Valentina Raghib Charry and Arantxa Galvan. It’s a bit of a love fest because these women really became part of the ODEIB family in their time with us. We are so proud of the work that they accomplished and of the passion that they display. Eliana, Deynna, Valentina and Arantxa are a vision of the future of DEIB that we are very excited to usher into the legal profession. They’re also a case study for successful internships. So hit that play button and hear what they have to say!


    DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

    Tanya – White Women, by Regina Jackson and Saira Rao (https://bityl.co/LnJs)

    Angie – Deconstructing Karen (https://bityl.co/LnJv)

    Mary Ellen – Recognizing the Inherent Bias Within the Legal Profession and Identifying Your Relationship with It (CLE Program Coming Soon)


    Access a transcript of this episode: https://bityl.co/LqPv

    • 1 hr
    The Legal Accountability Project

    The Legal Accountability Project

    Aliza Shatzman is President and Founder of the Legal Accountability Project, a nonprofit aimed at extending support and resources to law clerks to ensure that they have a positive clerkship experience. Aliza talks about the mistreatment that she experienced as a law clerk. Her experience led her to discover the shocking lack of labor protections for clerks and the enormous power disparity between clerks and judges. Aliza was ultimately inspired to take on the deeply entrenched status quo in the clerking system. Tune in to hear about:

    • The power dynamic that exists today which gives judges the power to mistreat clerks and potentially derail their clerks’ careers
    • How law schools and their clerkship offices have been complicit in protecting bad actors and withholding information about bad judges from clerkship applicants
    • How Aliza has improved accountability for judges and raised awareness in the community of law clerks
    • What law clerks experiencing mistreatment can do to get help
    • What changes need to be made to improve working conditions for clerks
    • The centralized clerkship database created by the Legal Accountability Project that democratizes information about judges and clerkships: https://bityl.co/K4ND
    You can read Aliza’s testimony to the House Committee on the Judiciary here: https://bityl.co/K6EO

    DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

    Mary Ellen – Radical Queer Witches (https://bityl.co/K6EV)
    Angie – Women Talking (https://amz.run/6vjB)
    Tanya – Wednesday (https://bityl.co/K6EW) a recommendation to watch and to investigate bias: (https://bityl.co/K6Ei)

    • 45 min
    Recession-Proofing Commitments to DEIB

    Recession-Proofing Commitments to DEIB

    Ankura Consulting Group is a management consulting firm with over two thousand employees advising corporations in various industries and sectors e.g. cybersecurity, construction, litigation and human resources. Shawn Miles' and Patricia Rodriguez’s social-impact team helps companies ask themselves difficult questions about their own environments and values so that they can make sure that their people feel accepted, welcome and able to show up as themselves.

    Patricia and Shawn speak about being intentional with Belonging, about building strategies and spaces for people to be honest and sometimes uncomfortable. They helped us understand the ways in which building psychological safety to get things wrong can be tantamount to building psychological safety to really try and get things right.

    The Building Belonging crew carries this idea into a discussion about how to persevere in the face of an “anti-woke” movement that seeks to co-opt and undermine DEIB ideals. Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen talk with Shawn and Patricia about how to be prepared for “anti-woke” arguments that are made in bad faith and how to keep the DEIB conversation going on a productive track. They also delve into the implications of these strategies in the political atmosphere of anti-woke, anti-DEIB regulations.

    The data shows that organizations that succeed in DEIB also outperform their competitors financially. Patricia and Shawn talk about how improving DEIB improves organizational decision-making and makes companies more responsive to increasingly-diverse customer bases. Nevertheless, when recession happens and businesses need to make cuts, DEIB initiatives are often first on the block. Shawn and Patricia shared some of the talking points and strategies that they have used to remind companies that DEIB is good for long-term, sustainable growth as well as for retention of the top talent.

    DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

    Angie – Milk (https://amz.run/6oME)
    Mary Ellen – So You Want to Talk about Race? (https://amz.run/6oMF)
    Tanya – Overruling Grutter: What Does Ending Affirmative Action Mean for Voluntary DEI Workplace (https://bityl.co/JQIr)

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    • 53 min

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