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How are forests becoming digital environments? The Smart Forests research project investigates the social-political impacts of digital technologies that monitor and govern forests. In this podcast series, we speak to scientists, artists, activists, and technologists about their work.

Find out more about the Smart Forests project at https://smartforests.net/ and explore the Smart Forests Atlas at https://atlas.smartforests.net/.

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How are forests becoming digital environments? The Smart Forests research project investigates the social-political impacts of digital technologies that monitor and govern forests. In this podcast series, we speak to scientists, artists, activists, and technologists about their work.

Find out more about the Smart Forests project at https://smartforests.net/ and explore the Smart Forests Atlas at https://atlas.smartforests.net/.

    Fleur Bokma: Stichting Deltaplan Biodiversiteitsherstel

    Fleur Bokma: Stichting Deltaplan Biodiversiteitsherstel

    Within the Netherlands, there are a lot of widely contrasting ideas about biodiversity. The ‘Stichting Deltaplan Biodiversiteitsherstel’ is a foundation that connects parties, including biodiversity organisations, politics, farmers, and local initiatives, together to create plans for biodiversity restoration. Fleur Bokma worked as a biodiversity advisor for this project. In this interview, she discusses the use of indicators, the challenges of measuring and monitoring these indicators, and how to work collectively with organisations that have different interests and ambitions concerning biodiversity. She discusses how digital infrastructures potentially bring diverging perspectives on biodiversity closer together because they can help to create more collective ambitions. The website 'Samen voor Biodiversiteit', provides an overview of all the initiatives and partners involved. It’s a great resource for understanding the diverse ongoing local and national biodiversity projects that are taking place in the Netherlands.
    Interviewer: Michelle Westerlaken
    Producer: Harry Murdoch
    Language note: This interview takes place in Dutch.
    Image: Samen voor Biodiversiteit, https://www.samenvoorbiodiversiteit.nl/projecten

    • 18 min
    Global Forest Watch Indonesia: Plurality in Defining Forests

    Global Forest Watch Indonesia: Plurality in Defining Forests

    In this Smart Forest Radio episode, we invite Benita Nathania, Mirzha Hanifah (Hani), and Hidayah (Iday) Hamzah from the World Resources Institute (WRI) Indonesia to discuss the use of Global Forest Watch (GFW), an online platform for near real-time forest monitoring in Indonesia. Benita, Hani, and Iday talk about the challenges of utilising GFW in Indonesia. They especially consider complexities related to the diversity of forest definitions and the importance of understanding methodology in interpreting data.
    Interviewer: Yuti Ariani Fatimah
    Producer: Harry Murdoch
    Language note: This interview takes place in Indonesian.
    For more on Global Forest Watch, head to Smart Forests Atlas
    Image: Nathania et al. (2022), https://wri-indonesia.org/id/publikasi/metode-prioritisasi-peringatan-terkini-perubahan-tutupan-pohon-glad-alert-untuk-berbagai

    • 34 min
    Pranav Menon: Bottom-up Forest Mapping with the Van Gujjars in India

    Pranav Menon: Bottom-up Forest Mapping with the Van Gujjars in India

    In this Smart Forests Radio episode, we speak with Pranav Menon, a PhD researcher in the Department of Anthropology at the University of Minnesota, about the politics surrounding forest-dwelling communities, forest commons, and digital technologies in India. Pranav focuses on his engagement with the Van Gujjars, a pastoral community experiencing discrimination, on forest claims made through bottom-up mapping practices. Through ethnographic research combined with a handheld GPS eTrex device, he explores ways to generate different imaginations of forest space rooted in pastoralists’ language and life, which can challenge the state’s hierarchisation of land and people. Despite their insurgent possibilities, Pranav also notes that technologies such as GIS might impact the way the pastoral communities perceive and use space, potentially undermining their traditional way of living.

    Interviewers: Trishant Simlai and Kate Lewis Hood
    Producer: Harry Murdoch

    Image: Pranav Menon

    • 27 min
    Ignacio Barbeito: Making Forests Resilient with Technology

    Ignacio Barbeito: Making Forests Resilient with Technology

    In this Smart Forests Radio episode, we are in conversation with Ignacio Barbeito, an Assistant Professor of Silviculture in the Department of Forest Resources Management, at the University of British Columbia. Ignacio discusses how the Climate-Smart Forestry (CSF) approach is transforming forest research practices. He highlights that technologies like tomography, lidar, GIS, and drones are enabling unprecedented ways of seeing forests, providing data such as heartbeat-like growth patterns of trees. As revolutionary as they are, Ignacio also notes that these technologies may blind us with an overwhelming amount of data and incomprehensibly high resolution.
    Interviewers: Jennifer Gabrys and Max Ritts
    Producer: Harry Murdoch
    For more on Clmate-Smart Forestry, head to Smart Forests Atlas
    Image: Kamil Kędra and Ignacio Barbeito (2022), https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41064-022-00201-3

    • 29 min
    Rainforest Alert: Indigenous Monitoring in the Peruvian Amazon

    Rainforest Alert: Indigenous Monitoring in the Peruvian Amazon

    In this Smart Forests Radio episode, we speak with Tom Bewick, former Peru director at Rainforest Foundation US and currently an international project specialist at Nature4Climate. The conversation focuses on the Rainforest Alert, a community forest monitoring system in the Peruvian Amazon that Tom co-developed during his time at the Rainforest Foundation. The Rainforest Alert integrates smartphone technologies, open data deforestation alerts like Global Forest Watch, offline GIS, drones, and satellite imageries to support Indigenous-led monitoring and protection of their territories. Tom discusses how Indigenous communities use the system for their monthly patrols—detecting deforestation activities, patrolling sites, recording evidence, and collectively deciding on a course of action. He also comments on the implications of such a real-time alert system for the intervention process, governance structure, and data ownership.
    Interviewers: Kate Lewis Hood and Jennifer Gabrys
    Producer: Harry Murdoch
    For more on Rainforest Alert, head to Smart Forests Atlas
    Image: Rainforest Foundation US, https://rainforestfoundation.org

    • 26 min
    Sass Klaassen and Driessen: Sensing Movements of Trees and Snails

    Sass Klaassen and Driessen: Sensing Movements of Trees and Snails

    In this Smart Forests Radio episode, we are in conversation with tree-ring researcher Ute Sass Klaassen at Van Hall Larenstein and Wageningen University & Research, and multi-species geographer Clemens Driessen at Wageningen University & Research. Their research illustrates different more-than-human approaches to engaging with seemingly slower entities like trees and snails by using digital technology. Ute discusses how sensors enable the analysis of the interaction between tree vitality and climate change, such as rate of growth and water transport in stems. To obtain a fuller picture of how trees react to extreme climate events, she explores ways to combine remotely sensed data from drones and satellites with data from tree sensors. Clemens shares an artistic design research project, Unwhorl, developed in collaboration with Mari Bastashevski and Sam Lavinge, which visualises the traces snails leave as they interact with an iPad.

    Interviewer: Michelle Westerlaken

    Producer: Harry Murdoch
    For more on Tweeting Trees and tree-ring research by DendroLab, head to Smart Forests Atlas
    Image: Wageningen University & Research, https://www.wur.nl

    • 27 min

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