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An unscripted conversation with guests who reject the status quo with a bias for action, in the world of water and beyond. Co-hosted by Will Sarni and Tom Freyberg.

The Stream (with Will & Tom‪)‬ Will Sarni & Tom Freyberg

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An unscripted conversation with guests who reject the status quo with a bias for action, in the world of water and beyond. Co-hosted by Will Sarni and Tom Freyberg.

    4th Generation Ranching and liquid gold with Jerry Gunderson | S6 Ep.5

    4th Generation Ranching and liquid gold with Jerry Gunderson | S6 Ep.5

    In the final episode of The Stream season 6, Will and Tom are joined by Jerry Gunderson, a 4th generation rancher and businessman from Colorado.

    It was great to bring in the voice of agriculture and cattle into the conversation in this episode. Often, it’s a voice that doesn’t get an invite to these types of discussions. 

    Jerry talks openly about life as a rancher, including anticipating water challenges and measures he’s taking to ensure there’s a water reserve available during times of water scarcity. 

     As a 4th generation rancher, Jerry has seen it all, from family feuds to drought and beyond. He takes us through his journey with water. 
    We hope you enjoy the episode! 

    Special thanks to this season’s sponsor Raymond James: https://www.raymondjames.com/ 

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: 
    British Water: https://www.britishwater.co.uk/ 
    WWF: https://www.wwfca.org/en/our_work/water/ 
    Water Alliance: https://wateralliance.nl/en/water-all... 
    DCU Water institute: https://dcuwater.ie/ 
    SurplusWater25: https://surpluswater2025.com/ 
    Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley Lab: https://eesa.lbl.gov/ 
    Water Foundry: https://www.waterfoundry.com/ 
    Atlantean Media: https://www.atlanteanmedia.com/

    • 39 min
    Hats off to rancher-turned-water policy guru James Eklund on the ‘Law of the River’ | S6 Ep.4

    Hats off to rancher-turned-water policy guru James Eklund on the ‘Law of the River’ | S6 Ep.4

    This week Will and Tom are joined by James Eklund, Water & Natural Resources Practice Lead, Sherman & Howard. Known as the architect of Colorado’s first strategic water plan, he was the Director of the Colorado Water Conservation Board.

    James talks about why involving all stakeholders, effectively democratising input on the future of their supply, was a central to the success of the plan.

    He discusses his origin story – he’s a fifth generation Coloradan from the Western Slope of Colorado, where his parents operate a ranch homesteaded by his great, great grandparents in 1888.

    He’s often consulted on implementing what has been considered the “gold standard” of water plans in the Western US.
    Enjoy the episode!

    Special thanks to this season's sponsor, Raymond James.

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: British Water, WWF, Water Alliance, DCU Water Institute, SurplusWater25, Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley  Lab, Water Foundry and Atlantean Media.

    • 58 min
    Catalysing first movers in the decentralised water evolution with Newsha Ajami | S6 Ep.3

    Catalysing first movers in the decentralised water evolution with Newsha Ajami | S6 Ep.3

    In this episode, Will and Tom are joined by Newsha Ajami, Chief Development Officer for Research, Earth & Environmental Sciences Area, Berkeley Lab.

    They talk about the role of water demand reduction to help increase water security across the Colorado River Basin.

    Newsha discusses what’s needed to move from a centralised, aka the conventional water systems, to the decentralised model and the role of engaging community ambassadors.

    She believes spurring the first movers is really important in the decentralised movement, and talks about policy developments and leading cities such as San Francisco

    There is also talk, believe it or not, on pizza! That’s right, we discuss how digital innovation has given people insights on their pizza’s being cooked and delivered. Why is it that people have a more positive relationship with their local pizzeria than their water company?

    It was great to have Newsha back on The Stream – we’re a big fan of her vision for the future of water.

    We hope you enjoy the episode!

    Special thanks to this season's sponsor, Raymond James.

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: British Water, WWF, Water Alliance, DCU Water Institute, SurplusWater25, Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley  Lab, Water Foundry and Atlantean Media.

    • 44 min
    Greywater reuse and beer with Aaron Tartakovsky | S6 Ep.2

    Greywater reuse and beer with Aaron Tartakovsky | S6 Ep.2

    In this episode, Will and Tom are joined by Aaron Tartakovsky, co-founder and CEO of Epic Cleantec. 

    He talks about the company genesis, and going back to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Reinvent the Toilet challenge.


    With a background in politics and one of four co-founders of the business, Aaron talks about the challenges of carving out an entirely new market: onsite, water reuse within commercial buildings.


    Although leading a recycled water beer campaign that went viral, the scaling of the business has not been without its challenges. During early events, Aaron was told by senior utility teams that he’s the guy putting them out of business!


    Aaron is one of the leading entrepreneurs in this space, and we hope you enjoy his story as much as we did.

    Enjoy the episode!

    Special thanks to this season's sponsor, Raymond James.

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: British Water, WWF, Water Alliance, DCU Water Institute, SurplusWater25, Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley  Lab, Water Foundry and Atlantean Media.

    • 42 min
    Building a future-proof utility in the desert with Dave Johnson | S6 Ep.1

    Building a future-proof utility in the desert with Dave Johnson | S6 Ep.1

    In this episode, Will and Tom are joined by Dave who gives context on Southern Nevada, providing water in the desert and meeting the needs of a population that booms from tourism and the attraction of Las Vegas.
    As one of the Leading Utilities of the World, he discusses why they’re sharing lessons with like-minded water companies around the world on their 20-year demand management journey and also the long term, water resource strategy.


    We also talk about grass, or turf, and the limiting of the Colorado river for the irrigation of non-functional turf, naturally refraining from breaking into the Tom Jones’ song, The green green grass of home.


    And finally, Dave discusses an innovation on water footprinting with Southern Nevada’s tool being used to evaluate potential water use from incoming businesses.

    Plus much much more! We hope you enjoy the episode!

    Special thanks to this season's sponsor, Raymond James.

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: British Water, WWF, Water Alliance, DCU Water Institute, SurplusWater25, Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley  Lab, Water Foundry and Atlantean Media.

    • 41 min
    Sustainability legend John Elkington on the triple bottom line | S5 Ep.10

    Sustainability legend John Elkington on the triple bottom line | S5 Ep.10

    We've been looking forward to this one...

    This week, Will and Tom are joined by one of the founders of the sustainability movement, the great John Elkington.

    A founding partner and chief pollinator at Volans, and also the co-founder of ENDS (Environmental Data Services), John talks about the triple bottom line (people, planet and prosperity) vision, and why this ended up being recalled and revised.

    Plus, John talks about the joint responsibility of younger and older generations when it comes to sustainability.

    And John takes an interest in Will’s model spitfire in his office, telling an awesome story of his father flying planes during the war.

    Plus much, much more!

    We hope you enjoy the episode!

    Special thanks to this season’s sponsor Acciona.

    And thanks to our knowledge partners: British Water, WWF, Water Alliance, DCU Water institute, SurplusWater25, Earth and Environmental Science at Berkeley Lab, Water Foundry and Atlantean Media.

    • 38 min

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