90 episodes

This is the podcast for Aspiring, Middle and Senior Leaders in Education. Each week we dive into a topic to talk leadership, strategy, culture and the business of K-12 education to define what success looks like in an educational setting in the 2020's and beyond. Our mission for the podcast is to create the best free professional learning on the internet for school leaders.

Hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier.

EdLeaders Australia Luke Callier and Mathew Irving

    • Education
    • 4.9 • 11 Ratings

This is the podcast for Aspiring, Middle and Senior Leaders in Education. Each week we dive into a topic to talk leadership, strategy, culture and the business of K-12 education to define what success looks like in an educational setting in the 2020's and beyond. Our mission for the podcast is to create the best free professional learning on the internet for school leaders.

Hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier.

    E90 | Fostering Empathy and Personal Growth with Simon Shepherd, Principal at Westminster School Adelaide

    E90 | Fostering Empathy and Personal Growth with Simon Shepherd, Principal at Westminster School Adelaide

    In this episode of the ‘Ed Leaders’ podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving are joined by special guest Simon Shepherd, principal at Westminster School Adelaide, who shares invaluable insights on fostering empathy and personal growth within leadership roles.

    Learn about the transformative experiences at Westminster School Adeliade, where empathy is championed and a culture of growth is cultivated. Simon emphasizes the importance of preparing students with essential life skills, focusing on emotional intelligence and practical tools beyond academic knowledge.

    Discover how the future of education is shaped by the integration of AI technology and the advocacy for micro credentialing. Delve into topics such as empathy in education, the significance of professional development for growth, and the often-overlooked contributions of maintenance teams within schools.

    Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion that celebrates the power of empathy and growth in shaping leaders for tomorrow's world. Tune in now!



    Highlights:


    (02:08) Simon Sheppard's diverse educational journey.


    (06:29) Benefits of experiencing different leadership styles.


    (08:43) Importance of continuous learning and empathy in education.


    (14:45) Evolution of staff coaching and collaboration within the school.


    (18:19) Council approval of an unlimited number of highly accomplished lead teachers.


    (21:52) Proposal of measuring success based on graduates' outcomes seven years after school.


    (24:27) The importance of relationships in teaching, and the challenge of allowing appropriate discomfort for growth.


    (28:26) Introduction of "adventurous education" in the school's strategic plan, empowering students to pursue subjects they are passionate about despite potential challenges.


    (34:49) Emphasis on making oneself redundant as a school leader by empowering the team, focusing on humanity and humility in education.


    (36:33) Striving to ask more questions than making statements, empowering others to make decisions, and the importance of using third-party guidance.


    (40:39) The relationship between principals and school councils, blending the idealized model with reality.


    (47:31 ) The future of education, focusing on emotional intelligence and application of knowledge.


    (49:24) The micro-credentialing and providing practical life skills to students.


    (51:22) Reference to professional development experiences and the importance of understanding leadership concepts.


    (51:46) Advocacy for national teacher registration and a unified curriculum.


    (52:01) Recommendation of the book "Humble" by Darrell van Tongren.



    Links:

    Website: Westminster School Adelaide

    LinkedIn: Simon Shepherd



    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/⁠

    Mathew Irving - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/



    Special thanks to our partners:

    Other sponsors if we have them..

    Signup to the Edleaders Newsletter: Head on over to edleaders.com.au to hear more about our journey. If you'd like to know more about being a guest or would like to sponsor our show - check out https://www.edleaders.com.au/collabs

    As always if you have questions, feedback, or a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - send us a message! Please remember if you have a spare minute, please leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player which will help more like-minded school leaders discover us.

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    • 58 min
    E89 | Shaping Leaders of Tomorrow, Mal Cater, Former Principal at Mentone Grammar

    E89 | Shaping Leaders of Tomorrow, Mal Cater, Former Principal at Mentone Grammar

    Join Luke Callier and Mathew Irving in this episode of the 'Ed Leaders' podcast as they dive deep into the essence of education amidst the ever-evolving landscape of technology, alongside Mal Cater, Former Principal at Mentone Grammar School. From the importance of maintaining personal connections to the significance of mentorship and professional development, Mal shares invaluable insights garnered from his 17-year journey in leadership.

    Discover how personalized learning experiences are reshaping traditional assessment methods and explore the future trends that are shaping the educational landscape.

    Don't miss out on the opportunity to deepen your understanding of educational leadership and make a meaningful impact in your community. Tune in now!

    Highlights:

    ● (02:09) Mal shares his journey in education, from being a student to becoming

    a principal.

    ● (04:52) Humorous discussion about coaching ambitions at a young age.

    ● (05:14) Description of Mentone Grammar School's campus and structure.

    ● (06:51) The move to co-education, challenges, and opportunities.

    ● (08:48) Complexity and opportunities of separate gender education, addressing

    challenges.

    ● (14:25) Balancing strengths and weaknesses in leadership roles.

    ● (16:18) Discussing areas that required work, such as student counseling.

    ● (18:55) Importance of relationships with school boards and chairs.

    ● (22:40) Importance of shaping and nurturing the board, focusing on mrecruitment and maintaining optimal size.

    ● (26:54) Managing complexities of COVID-19, including operational and strategic challenges.

    ● (31:46) Changes and benefits from schooling during and after COVID-19, emphasizing student well-being and digital citizenship.

    ● (37:59) Recruitment process for teachers, immersive experiences, student feedback, and managing staff to fit the school culture.

    ● (43:00) Commitment to investing in employment relationships, striving to improve teaching quality continually.

    ● (44:58) Approach to finishing well at Mentone Grammar, including overseeing staff recruitment and ensuring a positive transition for the successor.

    ● (46:49) Focus on sending strong messages to ensure the school continues to

    thrive even after the current leadership transition.

    ● (47:13) Reflections on leadership experience and advice for future leaders, emphasizing trust, strategic planning, and caring for people.

    ● (49:43) The future of education, including the impact of artificial intelligence and potential changes in university admissions.

    ● (51:15) Brief responses in the "6th and 60 seconds" segment, addressing various education-related topics in quick succession.





    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/

    Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/


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    • 57 min
    EP88 | Creating Joyful Learning Experiences with Abe Janson, Principal at Denver Public Schools

    EP88 | Creating Joyful Learning Experiences with Abe Janson, Principal at Denver Public Schools

    In this episode of the 'Ed Leaders' podcast, join Luke Callier and Mathew Irving as they delve into the dynamic world of education with special guest Abe Janson, the school principal of Denver Public Schools. Abe shares his remarkable journey from forestry to educational leadership, highlighting the transformative power of experiential learning in his leadership style.



    Discover how Abe's school prioritizes recruiting good people over experience, fostering a positive culture, and embracing diversity. Explore the innovative teaching practices employed, including tier-one instruction through teacher exemplars and engaging monthly field trips, all aimed at providing diverse opportunities while nurturing resilience and independence in students. They also dive deep into topics such as school specialization, potential consolidations, and the rise of magnet schools. 



    Plus, learn about the importance of blended learning models, joyful learning experiences, and the role of leadership in fostering innovation within educational environments. From leading by example to embracing facility management roles, this episode uncovers the underrated aspects of education while championing the pursuit of excellence and innovation. 



    Whether you're an educator, administrator, or simply passionate about education, this episode is for you - Tune in now!



    Highlights:




    (02:26) Abe's accidental entry into education and his journey from forestry to teaching.


    (09:34) Abe's reflections on the skills and qualities that made him stand out as a leader.


    (12:33) The importance of doing whatever it takes to be successful as a leader, including being present and available.


    (19:18) Exploring the concept of vision casting and the process of resetting the vision and values of a school.


    (23:46) Integrating the school's vision, values, and beliefs into all aspects of the school's work.


    (26:43) The ongoing journey of refining the school's vision and values to make them portable and memorable for all staff.


    (28:47) Hiring philosophy: Importance of hiring good people, reference checks, and networking.


    (34:12) Teaching and learning philosophy: Focus on tier one instruction, using student work for lesson planning, creating enjoyable learning experiences.


    (37:27) Impact of outdoor experiential learning on leadership and its integration into school practices.


    (42:42) The importance of removing barriers and providing opportunities for students through field trips and joyful learning experiences.


    (45:02) Creating safe environments for students to take risks and participate fully in school activities.


    (46:52)Predictions for the future of schooling: School specialization, blended learning models, impact of school choice.



    Links:

    LinkedIn: Denver Public Schools

    LinkedIn: Abe Janson



    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/⁠

    Mathew Irving - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/



    Special thanks to our partners:

    Other sponsors if we have them..



    Signup to the Edleaders Newsletter: Head on over to edleaders.com.au to hear more about our journey. If you'd like to know more about being a guest or would like to sponsor our show - check out https://www.edleaders.com.au/collabs



    As always if you have questions, feedback, or a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - send us a message! Please remember if you have a spare minute, please leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player which will help more like-minded school leaders discover us.



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    • 52 min
    E87 | Fostering Community & Authentic Leadership with Darren Cox, Principal at Marsden Park Anglican College

    E87 | Fostering Community & Authentic Leadership with Darren Cox, Principal at Marsden Park Anglican College

    In this episode of the 'Ed Leaders' podcast, join Luke Callier and Mathew Irving as they explore the world of educational leadership with special guest Darren Cox, Principal at Marsden Park Anglican College. 

    Discover the transformative journey from teacher to principal as Darren shares invaluable insights on fostering a thriving school culture through community, authenticity, and proactive engagement. From tackling challenges like staff shortages to envisioning a dynamic learning environment for the future, Darren offers profound insights into fostering a thriving school culture. 

    Plus, learn about Darren's forward-thinking approach to addressing education's evolving needs, advocating for well-being initiatives, and fostering meaningful community engagement. Concluding with rapid-fire insights, Darren highlights the importance of impactful professional development and the necessity for educational rules to adapt.

    Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion! Tune in now!

    Highlights:


    (02:47) Darren's journey in education is inspired by the movie "To Sir, with Love."


    (05:43) Reflection on the journey from teacher to leader and the importance of authenticity.


    (08:38) Learning from both positive and negative role models in leadership.


    (11:21) Reflections on learnings from working outside of schools within the education system.


    (13:40)Challenges and considerations in scaling successful programs or initiatives across multiple schools.


    (14:40) Darren's motivation for returning to a school leadership role and founding Marsden Park Anglican College.


    (17:08)Evolution of understanding fit and advice for younger leaders on discerning their fit.


    (19:34) Importance of personal development and self-awareness for leaders to address character tendencies.


    (21:12) The importance of assembling a strong team using sports analogies.


    (22:30) Hiring based on complementary strengths rather than finding someone exactly like oneself.


    (26:23) Creating a joyful and permission-giving culture in the workplace.


    (29:58) The sources of personal leadership inspiration and the importance of challenging the status quo.


    (40:33) Darren discusses creativity in budgeting and the time spent on business management.


    (42:17) Importance of creating a strong profile for recruiting staff in challenging environments.


    (49:53) Aspirations for Marsden Park School in the next five years, focusing on community and values.


    (51:10) Speculations on the future of schooling, including changes in hours and delivery methods.



    Quote:

    "Schools offer a deep sense of community. Relationships matter, and fostering strong connections with students, staff, and parents is at the heart of education." -Darren

    "Leadership isn't just about doing everything everywhere. It's about understanding your strengths, values, and purpose to make decisions that truly align with who you are." -Darren

    Links:

    Website: Marsden Park Anglican College

    LinkedIn: Darren Cox

    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/⁠

    Mathew Irving - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/

    Special thanks to our partners:

    Other sponsors if we have them..

    Signup to the Edleaders Newsletter: Head on over to edleaders.com.au to hear more about our journey. If you'd like to know more about being a guest or would like to sponsor our show - check out https://www.edleaders.com.au/collabs

    As always if you have questions, feedback, or a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - send us a message! Please remember if you have a spare minute, please leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player which will help more like-minded school leaders discover us.

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    • 57 min
    E86| Building Positive Cultures with Dr Adam Fraser

    E86| Building Positive Cultures with Dr Adam Fraser

    In this episode of the ‘Ed Leaders’ podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving are joined by Dr. Adam Fraser, the founder of The Flourish Movement, who touches upon potential future shifts in education, exploring mixed models that integrate remote learning and AI assistance.

    Discover the significance of fostering joy through personal interests, embracing open feedback cultures, and addressing challenges educators face in prioritizing their well-being. Dr. Fraser also sheds light on the pivotal role of self-awareness, humility, and the importance of small daily actions in shaping positive workplace cultures.

    Delve into the practical strategies, including organizational alignment with values, the influence of office staff/administrators, and the value of hands-on learning experiences.





    Special thanks to our partners:

    Peoplebench help take the guesswork out of school workforce strategy & decision-making. Check them out at peoplebench.com.au.

    Paperly - simplifying administrative processes and removing the paperwork for teachers. Check them out at https://paperly.education/







    (03:12) Dr. Fraser's typical week and his focus on writing a book.


    (04:24) Dr. Fraser's writing process and motivation for high performance with balanced well-being.


    (07:07) Challenges of defining outcomes in leadership compared to sports.


    (09:54) Importance of self-awareness, humility, and feedback in leadership development.


    (11:56) Significance of small behaviors in shaping culture and fostering self-awareness in leadership.


    (16:50) Impact of leadership behavior on organizational culture and the journey of personal growth for leaders.


    (18:56) Contagious nature of behavior, influence of leaders on organizational dynamics, and significance of personal development in leadership roles.


    (23:39) Emphasizing the influence of individuals in school environments and the importance of self-awareness.


    (30:25) Discussing the misconception around well-being and the need to integrate it into daily work routines.


    (37:32) Reflecting on societal trends that prioritize constant happiness and the importance of discomfort for personal growth.


    (43:28) Emphasis on fostering a healthy balance between open praise and constructive feedback in organizations.


    (46:06) Prediction of mixed models of education, including remote learning and potential AI integration.


    (47:49) The societal shifts towards prioritizing self-well-being and its impact on education.


    (48:27) Expectations of flexibility in work arrangements for educators, including the desire for remote work.









    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/⁠⁠

    Mathew Irving - ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/⁠



    Signup to the Edleaders Newsletter at edleaders.com.au to hear more about our journey and to level up your leadership game.



    If you'd like to know more about being a guest or would like to sponsor our show - check out https://www.edleaders.com.au/collabs



    As always if you have questions, feedback, or a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - send us a message! Please remember if you have a spare minute, please leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player which will help more like-minded school leaders discover us.



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    • 54 min
    E85| Tim Watson, Principal, Northern Beaches Christian School

    E85| Tim Watson, Principal, Northern Beaches Christian School

    Welcome to the ‘Ed Leaders’ podcast, where Luke Callier and Mathew Irving sit down with Tim Watson, the principal at Northern Beaches Christian School, who has a remarkable journey in education and leadership. Tim shares invaluable wisdom on the delicate balance of maintaining a passion for teaching while taking on leadership roles.

    Tim dives into the creation of a supportive climate for teachers, emphasizing the pillars of purpose, values, effort, learning, character development, relationships, and opportunities within schools. The importance of authentic feedback and open communication between school leaders and staff members takes center stage in this discussion. Tim also highlights the necessity of setting boundaries and pushing against them to foster growth within the educational ecosystem.

    Tim sheds light on the role of schools in contributing significantly to students' well-being and discusses future trends in education. Rather than predicting specific changes, he suggests focusing on what won't change in the next decade or two.

    Ready to learn more? Tune in now!

    Highlights:


    (01:37) Journey into education.


    (03:14) Key strength of organization in leadership.


    (05:19) Vision for Northern Beaches Christian School.


    (09:31) Nuance of deciding when to consult versus making a decision.


    (10:54) Example of a situation without a fixed opinion.


    (14:03) Discussion about being an extrovert in a leadership role.


    (15:22) Complex situation involving managing students during the Icelandic volcano incident.


    (17:40) Complexities related to court orders, family dynamics, and managing relationships in schools.


    (18:23) Providing feedback in situations where personal and professional connections overlap.


    (19:16) Description of the school community and its informal yet purposeful atmosphere.


    (21:09) Supporting staff and creating a positive culture in schools.


    (27:24) Introduction of PeopleBench for workforce benchmarking in schools.


    (28:53) Discussion on the role of parents in character development and finding the right fit for leadership roles.


    (33:47) School's vision of equipping students for an uncertain future through a love of learning.


    (39:06) Challenges of students to face the transition from student agency to a structured work environment.


    (42:49) "Six in 60 Seconds" segment covering underrated or overrated educational narratives, roles in schools, changing rules in education, a recommended book, and potential podcast interviewees.






    You can also connect with us personally at LinkedIn:

    Luke Callier - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/⁠

    Mathew Irving - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/



    Special thanks to our partners:

    Peoplebench help take the guesswork out of school workforce strategy & decision-making. Check them out at peoplebench.com.au.

    Paperly - simplifying administrative processes and removing the paperwork for teachers. Check them out at https://paperly.education/



    Signup to the Edleaders Newsletter at edleaders.com.au to hear more about our journey and to level up your leadership game.



    If you'd like to know more about being a guest or would like to sponsor our show - check out https://www.edleaders.com.au/collabs



    As always if you have questions, feedback, or a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - send us a message! Please remember if you have a spare minute, please leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player which will help more like-minded school leaders discover us.
















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    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
11 Ratings

11 Ratings

Des Pilkington ,

Important conversations

This show is contributing some very important conversations to the educational landscape. Keep up the great work guys!

Brayden J Stone ,

Leadership listening must!!!!

Thanks Mat and Luke for bringing us such though provoking ideas. In particular, your conversation with Peter Hutton no longer allows us to sit back and watch the current education system dictate to our current, and future student body. Great work guys.

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