aperture in high sierra?

Ater I launched High Sierra the first time it frightened me with this message - very surprising, because I do not include Aperture in my startup items.

But this has been caused, because I am keeping Aperture 3.4.5 around in addition to Aperture 3.6. Aperture 3.4.5 can still use the more detailed google maps and can show terrain data. None of the newer apple apps has such good maps.

High Sierra seems be trying to launch each application one to check for compatibility.

Remove any older Aperture versions to a backup drive and keep only Aperture 3.6 on your system drive, if you are seeing this. One of the older dynamic libraries used by Aperture 3.4.5 can be causing this error message.

Aperture is not crashing in Full Screen mode for me, the "F" key is working, but in FullScreen mode the cursor is leaving traces. I did not not notice that, because I prefer to work without fullscreen mode.

Full screen mode is just crazy on my MacBook Pro, an movement of the cursor is drawing a pattern onto the image - I've seen this problem last in Yosemite:

Lars, High Sierra is still in Beta mode. We cannot make predictions from the current Beta, if Aperture will still run on the system, because the final release will probably be different.

Photos will be improved in High Sierra, according to Apple's presentation at the WWDC-17. Here is a preview from the presentation: macOS High Sierra Preview - Apple

It was only short glimpse, but we will be able to select regions in Photos, based on the color and enhance the color.

We cannot post the results from testing with the High Sierra Beta versions in Apple's own Forum. Such posts will be removed immediately by the community hosts. Look on other web sites.

But there is nothing in the macOS High Sierra - Apple preview, that is indicating a problem with Aperture, since Aperture 3.6 is already a 64 bit application. I would not change to Apple File System with the system upgrade, to be on the safe side.

Keeping a bootable clone of the current system is a very good precaution. (macOS Sierra: Revert to a previous macOS version)

But test it, if you really can start the Mac from it before you upgrade, just in case.

With the Beta version I could stick to MacOS Extended (Journaled). But the official release of High Sierra forces the installation of APFS, if the Mac has an SSD drive There is no choice. On my MacBook Pros I now have Aperture running on High Sierra with APFS.

Prepare for APFS in macOS High Sierra - Apple Support

Do you know whether the folder structure in Aperture would be pulled through into Photos and replicated as a new set of albums, where there were Folders and Projects?

Yes, the Aperture albums and projects will be replicated as a set of nested folders, with an album for each project. How Photos handles content and metadata from iPhoto and Aperture - Apple Support

If all your photos have been tagged with GPS, the "Moments" in Photos are very convenient. Photos will group all photos taken at the sam place at the same time into a moment, so we get a moment automatically for each shooting session. And related moments will be grouped as collections, so I do no longer need to create projects for "shoots" and folders of projects for longer trips. Phots is automatically structuring the library like this.

Photos can work with referenced images in a limited way.

• If you convert an Aperture library with referenced images to Photos for Mac, the referenced mages will be migrated referenced and remain in the previous location.
• Photos can import new photos as referenced.
• Photos can consolidate referenced photos into the library.
• However, Photos cannot relocate referenced photos to new folders. That will be a problem, if you need to move the referenced photos to a different drive.
• And Photos has a very limited support, if you need to reconnect referenced images, if the originals cannot be found. If you have a large library with broken references, you will be in for a long antedious work.
• You cannot use referenced images, if you want to use iCloud Photo Library.

I have a lot of faith in Apple and how they boasted how the new Photos will really wonderful. We know Apple is saving most of the great “magic” for the official public release of macOS10.13 .. I can’t wait! 🎉

Hi.

Do you already have any new information about High Sierra and Aperture ?

The new Foto looks some better.

My plan would be to upgrade to high sierra and try to use Aperture Again. With about 10K pictures in 30 Aperture libraries If Aperture will not work I should be able to open the aperturelibrary with Photo.

I will keep a boot disc with Sierra... just in case...

Any suggestion ?

Thanks a lot

I loaded High Sierra to my new MacBook Pro 15 w Touchbar and happy to see that so far my Aperture 3.6 still runs!! I played around with the new Photos app and it does have levels, curves and selective color as well as definition slider and a few others.. but the simplest things like flagging, color tag and rating are still absent. The ability to work with both managed and referenced files simultaneously as the way Aperture did is no where close, It's going to be really hard to let go of Aperture. Still shining as one of most strongest work flows I have ever used! It's like working with iTunes and then all of a sudden all that is left is win amp etc etc..

Hi RicoFotoChico.

You wrote about the new Photo that he does not have in comparison with Aperture “the ability to work simultaneously with managed and referenced files”

Do you mean Photo can work with referenced files ?

This will be interesting for me: I have all my photos referenced (I like to have them on external disc and care about keeping backup).

Thanks for you answer.

Hi Leonie,

You wrote a good article on switching from Aperture to Photos. Even though the new photos doesn't have all the functionality of Aperture, I'm tempted to move to Photos for the convenience/icloud features. Do you know whether the folder structure in Aperture would be pulled through into Photos and replicated as a new set of albums, where there were Folders and Projects?

I feel like if it kept this structure, I could work with Photos.
Thanks,
Greg

Hello Walter, I agree with the reply that came shortly after me. You can run Mac Photos App with a reference setup, but the problem becomes that Photos will not allow sync of photos library to iCloud with reference files and will only work with managed files imported into the Photos library. This is where Aperture was king. You could work with both managed and referenced files and not be affected but with Photos this is kit the case. Also if you import your new images into photos with managed setup then you’d have to export them as originals to your external hard drive just so you’d have a way to reference them with other apps and your hard drive. So not very helpful with us whom like to reference.

New Photos are surprisingly slow, comparing to Aperture interface and real time editing. Especially on older Macs, like 2010-2012, it just unusable now. Choking on every slider moving, eating RAM more than a Photoshop…

New Photos are surprisingly slow, comparing to Aperture interface and real time editing.

I cannot confirm this. It may depend on the model of your computer. For me, on a MacBook Pro Retina (late 2015) Photos is faster than Aperture has ever been. The first week Photos may be slow because of the heavy background processing. Photos is doing image analysis and classifying each photo into categories.That requires a lot of processing power during the initial migration, if the library is large. But it is worth it. When it is done, you can search for photos showing a beach or a sunset, a bear, or a squirrel without having to add keywords to the photos. Photos can recognize animals, people, landscape by analyzing the photo in combination with the location data.

The problem is more, that Photos does not allow us to customize the work space like we could in Aperture, and that the support for batch processing and metadata is very limited. For example, we cannot copy adjustments to a batch of photos, only onto individual photos. There are no presets to handle metadata. It is simply not a workspace for professional photo work .